It’s time to shift the spotlight.
If you are like us, you want to know what is happening in the real economy. Not the economy of derivatives trading, credit default swaps, politics, media or Silicon Valley. On Real Leadership, we spotlight the heroes at the helm of companies who make, move and process things. Leaders in a world that is more pragmatic than pretty, more steak than sizzle, more guts than glory. Discover with us what it takes to lead in that world.
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Your Host
Meet Jim Weaver
When he’s not hosting the Real Leadership Podcast, Jim is Chief Executive Officer of The Ōnin Group, one of the largest staffing companies in the United States.
Jim began his journey at Ōnin in 2001 as an account executive in Nashville, Tennessee, and has become integral to The Ōnin Group’s phenomenal growth. Under Jim’s guidance, Ōnin has become a leader in the staffing industry and is recognized as one of Staffing Industry Analysts’ fastest-growing and best places to work. As CEO, Jim’s focus lies in developing smart systems and a corporate culture that boosts employee performance and delights customers.
Meet our latest guest
Justin Golden
Chief Executive Officer & Founder, SPOC Energy
What does it take to become the third generation to lead an 87-year-old family business…and still make it your own?
Justin Golden is CEO of Stephen Gould, one of the largest independent supply chain solutions providers in the country. Founded in 1939 as a small packaging storefront on Manhattan’s Lower East Side, Stephen Gould has grown under three generations of the Golden family into a global partner for some of the biggest names in consumer products, tech, aerospace and retail, spanning more than 40 locations across six countries. Justin spent nearly two decades earning his seat, starting as a sales manager in 2007 before becoming VP, then president, then CEO this past January.
What makes this conversation compelling isn’t just the family business success story — it’s Justin’s honesty about what generational leadership actually requires.
In this episode, we cover:
How Stephen Gould’s founders built a profit-sharing platform for independent sales agents that still drives the business today
The story behind Stephen Gould’s shift from a roughly $2 million mom-and-pop operation to a $1 billion national and global supply chain partner
How Justin’s early years — from filing invoices in 7th grade to getting kicked out of a Manhattan office building by security — shaped his leadership instincts
What it took to break down decades of decentralized silos and connect intelligence across 200+ independent agents
The real tension Justin and his father worked through once they were both in senior leadership roles together
Why Stephen Gould brought in its first fully independent board members in 2022 — and what ‘family owned, professionally run’ means in practice
How Stephen Gould has evolved from a packaging supplier into a full-spectrum supply chain partner across aerospace, cosmetics and beyond
How Justin is already thinking about setting up a fourth generation for success
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